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cynfree Jan 23 '19
I've come across a lot of men and a lot of ideas in my 18 years of singledome...trinity not trinity grace only yes there are grace only ADVENTISTS, law only,  they rejected the idea that the doctrines could have been corrupted or her writing could have been tampered with. She told us it would happen.they wanted til almost threbday bof her death to start the infilteration. Those that bare not interested in tnher times. Ice cold Christians or worse lukewarm.You have to find the right mix i have but God said no.
Zog Has-fallen
Zog Has-fallen Jan 23 '19
"She told us it would happen." Where?
cynfree Jan 27 '19
Books of a new order would be written I don't have the reverence I'm sorry. I am a voracious reader, reading multiple books at a time. Good even to!d me to re read GC cuz I missed stuff to read it slowly and only that book. I originally read it in just a co-op!le of days my caught was with her faster as and I was ill.
Zog Has-fallen
Zog Has-fallen Feb 4 '19
I know that quote but you're misinterpreting it. Also, it doesn't say that her writing will be tampered with.
cynfree Feb 18 '19
Then explain the books of new order and different voices.
Zog Has-fallen
Zog Has-fallen Mar 7 '19

Here's the two paragraph quote that you're misinterpreting:

The enemy of souls has sought to bring in the supposition that a great reformation was to take place among Seventh-day Adventists, and that this reformation would consist in giving up the doctrines which stand as the pillars of our faith, and engaging in a process of reorganization. Were this reformation to take place, what would result? The principles of truth that God in His wisdom has given to the remnant church, would be discarded. Our religion would be changed. The fundamental principles that have sustained the work for the last fifty years would be accounted as error. A new organization would be established. Books of a new order would be written. A system of intellectual philosophy would be introduced. The founders of this system would go into the cities, and do a wonderful work. The Sabbath of course, would be lightly regarded, as also the God who created it. Nothing would be allowed to stand in the way of the new movement. The leaders would teach that virtue is better than vice, but God being removed, they would place their dependence on human power, which, without God, is worthless. Their foundation would be built on the sand, and storm and tempest would sweep away the structure.  {1SM 204.2} 

Who has authority to begin such a movement? We have our Bibles. We have our experience, attested to by the miraculous working of the Holy Spirit. We have a truth that admits of no compromise. Shall we not repudiate everything that is not in harmony with this truth?  {1SM 205.1} 


If you read that carefully, you should have noticed the conditional statement: "Were this reformation to take place, what would result?" And if you had read more of Selected Messages, Vol. 1, you would understand the larger context to be about the pantheistic doctrines of John Harvey Kellogg.

For those who know Adventist history, it's pretty clear that Kellogg's pantheistic philosophy (the alpha) died out fairly quickly after Kellogg was forced out of the church. Now, it's true that pantheism returned to the SDA church in a different form (the omega) in the teachings of A. Graham Maxwell but that only resulted in souls lost and the jailing of dissidents, not a complete and overpowering reformation under the leadership of Satan, which was always just a potential threat.

The Forum post is edited by Zog Has-fallen Mar 8 '19
cynfree Aug 1 '19
im sorry was that addressed in particular to me? or just in general info though quite pertinent to today's sda church just love her! cant wait to meet and talk w her. we are in deep trouble from emerging church 
cynfree Aug 1 '19
then what r the books of a new order and what of the different voices in her writing?? just asking genuiniely want to know

cynfree Aug 1 '19
never min it was addressed to me ty
Zog Has-fallen
Zog Has-fallen Aug 7 '19

Quote from cynfree then what r the books of a new order and what of the different voices in her writing?? just asking genuiniely want to know

The reformation that Kellogg wanted never took place; therefore the books that were to result from Kellogg's uninspired objectives were never written. And why are you surprised that the writing style of the young Ellen G. White changed? Do you imagine that all accomplished writers begin by writing brilliantly by the age of 9? How many distinct voices are you hearing?
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